Method and System for Short-Arc Welding

ABSTRACT

A method and apparatus for providing short arc welding-type power is disclosed. The system includes a power supply, a wire feeder, and a controller. The output current is decreased at dive rate when the arc forms. The dive rate is maintained until the currents drops to a threshold, preferably a function of the peak short current in that cycle. Then the current is held steady for a length of time that is a percentage of the short time for that cycle. Then the current is decreased at the normal rate until the short reforms, and the current begins increasing at the normal rate. The holding steady portion can be omitted.

FIELD OF THE INVENTION

The present disclosure relates generally to the art of providingwelding-type power. More specifically, it relates to welding-type powersupplies used for short arc welding.

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

Many applications exist for welding and cutting systems used to join twoor more workpieces to one another, or to cut workpieces. Theseapplications exist throughout industry, but also for construction, shipbuilding, maintenance, and so forth. In arc welding systems, electricalpower is converted to a form useful for a welding process, and the powerprovides voltage and current necessary to establish and maintain arcsbetween an electrode and a workpiece. Plasma cutting and similaroperations also require conditioned power adapted for the specificprocess. In gas metal arc welding (GMAW), the arc is established betweenan electrode that is advanced towards the workpiece and the workpieceitself. The electrode is often provided by a wire feeder, that is partof the welding-type system. The electrode is consumed insomuch as it isadded to the weld as the weld puddle advances during the operation.

Some prior art GMAW systems with wire feeders allow the user to set thewire feed speed and the output voltage. Wire feed speed is oftenreferred to by the user as “heat” and voltage as “spread”. Higher wirefeed speeds require more current for the higher burn-off rate tomaintain the same arc voltage. Prior art welding-type systems can bevoltage-controlled (CV) or current-controlled (CC).

In welding and cutting power supplies, power electronic circuitry iscommonly switched on and off to control the desired power output usedfor the process. The switching is commonly performed by pulse widthmodulation (PWM) signals applied to the gates of power electronicswitches of converter circuits within the supplies. Conventional systemsutilize a single inverter in this converter circuitry, along with aninductor to smooth the output waveform. However, inductors in suchsystems can be quite large, adding additional cost and weight.Improvements in these systems have included the use of two or moreinverters or converters which are switched to provide the desiredoutput. The ripple amplitude of the output current is thereby reduced,consequently reducing the size of the output inductor, or in some caseseliminating the output inductor. One improved prior art system isdescribed in US Patent publication 2014-0376268 (hereby incorporated byreference).

One welding process is a short arc (or short circuit) welding process.In short arc welding the output alternates between a short state and anarc state. A cycle of short arc welding is one short state and one arcstate. The prior art Millermatic 211 Auto-Set w/MVP® welding system canbe used for short arc welding when in a CV mode. The wire advances andshorts to the work. Because the output is a CV output and the currentincreases when the short occurs, the rate of increase is set by thesystem inductance (or the apparent inductance set by the wave shape). Asthe current increases the wire melts faster, and eventually the shortclears when the drop at the end of the wire separates from the wire. Thevoltage across the arc is higher than the short voltage, so the currentdecreases (again at the normal machine inductance rate) for a CV output.The clearing of the short can be a violent action and create undesiredspatter.

The prior art has attempted to reduce spatter by reducing the currentduring, or just before, the transition from short to arc. Early attemptsincluded changing the resistance using a switch in the current path.(See. e.g., U.S. Pat. No. 5,001,326). These attempts were largelyunsuccessful because they still were not fast enough to reduce thecurrent before the arc formed. A significant improvement was predictingwhen the arc would form, based on the rate of change of output power(dp/dt). This prediction provided enough advance time to overcome thelag time in the current command, thus the current was reduced before thearc formed. This greatly reduced spatter. The predictive technique isdescribed in U.S. Pat. No. 6,087,626 (hereby incorporated by reference).While the predictive control works well, it is a sophisticated controlscheme, and not necessarily consistent with low cost welders.

Another improvement was using mechanical control of the wire to createthe arc. The arc is formed when the wire is retracted (or the advance isslowed). Thus, the transition to the arc occurs at a known time and thecurrent is lowered prior to that time. Alternatively, the current islowered, and then the wire is retracted. Because the current is low whenthe arc is formed, spatter is reduced. This sort of system is describedin U.S. Pat. No. 6,984,806 (hereby incorporated by reference). Whilethis system performs well it requires a wire feed motor close to thearc, which can also add cost and complexity to the welding-type system.

Accordingly, a welding-type system that provides an output for short arcwelding with reduced spatter is desired.

SUMMARY OF THE PRESENT INVENTION

According to a first aspect of the disclosure a short arc welding-typesystem includes a power circuit and a controller. The power circuit hasa control input and a power output and the controller has a controloutput connected to the control input, along with a current feedbackinput responsive to an output current and a voltage feedback inputresponsive to an output voltage. The controller also has a peak shortcurrent detection module that responds to the current feedback input andan arc/short state detection module that responds to the voltagefeedback input. The controller further includes a short time detectionmodule that responds to the arc/short state detection module and a divemodule that responds to the peak detection module and the arc/shortstate detection module. The controller further has a post dive modulethat is active after the dive module and responds to the short timedetection module. The controller further includes a normal rate modulethat responds to the current feedback input and the voltage feedbackinput.

Controller, as used herein, includes digital and analog circuitry,discrete or integrated circuitry, microprocessors, DSPs, etc., andsoftware, hardware and firmware, located on one or more boards, used tocontrol a device such as a power supply or power source. Peak shortcurrent detection module, as used herein, is a module that detects atleast one of the peak short current of a given weld cycle or the commandpeak short current of the given cycle. Arc/short state detection module,as used herein, is a module that detects whether the output is in ashort state or an arc state. Short time detection module, as usedherein, is a module that determines the duration of the short state ofthe given cycle. Dive module, as used herein, is a module that, inresponse to the process transitioning from the short state to the arcstate, causes the output current to be reduced at a dive rate until theoutput current magnitude falls to an ending threshold set as a functionof or percentage of the actual or commanded peak short current, and thenending the dive rate. Post dive module, as used herein, is a moduleactivated after a dive module, and it causes the output current todecrease at a rate less than the dive rate, and/or remain at a steadyrate for an active time that is a function of and/or a percentage of thetime the output is in the short state for the given cycle. Normal ratemodule, as used herein, is a module that causes the output current tochange at a normal rate. Dive rate, as used herein, is a rate of currentdecrease that exceeds the normal current rate of change on the output ofa welding-type system. Normal current change rate, or normal rate, asused herein, is the rate of change used by a welding-type system undertypical conditions, and can be based on the power supply inductance, oran apparent inductance. Apparent inductance, as used herein, is theinductance that would provide a rate of change of a welding-type outputwhen that rate of change is provided by commanding the output undertypical conditions (which exclude conditions such as during a dive orpost dive portion of a waveform). A steady rate of output current, asused herein, is a rate that is not commanded to change significantly,and includes changes due to output perturbations about a setpoint.Module, as used herein, includes software and/or hardware that cooperateto perform one or more tasks, and can include digital commands, controlcircuitry, power circuitry, networking hardware, etc.

According to a second aspect of the disclosure a method of providingwelding-type power for short arc welding includes monitoring the actualor commanded peak short current in the short state for a given cycle todetermine a peak short current, and monitoring whether the output is ina short state or an arc state for the given cycle. The time the outputis in the short state is tracked for the given cycle. During the shortstate the current is allowed to increase. In response to the processtransitioning from the short state to the arc state the current islowered at a dive rate that is at least twice a normal current changerate. After the dive rate ends the current is reduced at a rate ofchange less that the dive rate. The process returns to the short state,and this is repeated for a plurality of cycles.

Ending the dive rate occurs after at least one of the current magnitudefalls to a threshold, a determined time passes, or a number ofamp-seconds has been provided, in various embodiments

The threshold is a function of the determined peak short current, and/ora percentage of the determined peak short current of the given cycle, inother embodiments.

After the dive rate ends, and before reducing the current at a rate ofchange less than the dive rate, the current is allowed to remain at asteady rate for a period of time equal to a second percentage of thetime the output is in the short state for the given cycle in anotherembodiment.

Reducing the current at a rate of change less than the dive rateincludes providing current for the rest of the arc state to melt thewire to the desired amount in another embodiment.

The first percentage (at which the dive rate ends) is between 70% and80%, and/or at most 75% of the peak current, in various embodiments.

The second percentage (which is the time at which the post dive stateends) is between 20% and 30% and at least 25% in various alternatives.

The current increases in the short state increase at the normal currentrate of change in one embodiment.

The dive rate is at least three and/or at least four and/or at leasteight times the normal current change rate in other embodiments.

The plurality of cycles are successive cycles in another embodiment.

The normal rate module is active when the dive module and the post divemodule are inactive in another alternative.

The controller includes a short arc sequencing module in one embodiment.Short arc sequencing module, as used herein, is a module that activatesthe following modules, in the following order: a normal rate module, adive module, a post dive module, and the normal rate module, wherein theactivation is repeated for a plurality of cycles.

Other principal features and advantages of will become apparent to thoseskilled in the art upon review of the following drawings, the detaileddescription and the appended claims.

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS

FIG. 1 is block diagram of a welding-type system;

FIG. 2 is a flow chart of a control scheme to limit the wire feed speedand input current of a welding-type system;

FIG. 3 is a flow chart of a control scheme to limit the output voltageof a welding-type system;

FIG. 4 is a wave form for a short arc cycle; and

FIG. 5 is a flow chart of a control scheme for a short arc process.

Before explaining at least one embodiment in detail it is to beunderstood that the invention is not limited in its application to thedetails of construction and the arrangement of the components set forthin the following description or illustrated in the drawings. Theinvention is capable of other embodiments or of being practiced orcarried out in various ways. Also, it is to be understood that thephraseology and terminology employed herein is for the purpose ofdescription and should not be regarded as limiting. Like referencenumerals are used to indicate like components.

DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE PREFERRED EMBODIMENTS

While the present disclosure will be illustrated with reference to aparticular welding-type system with a particular power circuit andcontrol scheme, used for particular welding processes, it should beunderstood at the outset that the invention can also be implemented withother welding-type systems, other power circuits and other controlschemes, and used for other welding processes. The description includesa description of reduced wire feed speeds, and followed by a descriptionof a control short arc welding system. These aspects can be combined ona single system or can each be implemented without the other.

Generally, a welding-type system that provides a waveform for short arcwelding and/or that provides a reduced wire feed speed to avoidexcessive input current (and to avoid tripping a circuit breaker) isdisclosed. Welding-type system, as used herein, includes any devicecapable of supplying welding-type power, including ancillary devicessuch as a wire feeder, robot, etc. Welding-type power, as used herein,refers to welding, plasma, induction heating power, or hot wirewelding/preheating (including laser welding). Controller, as usedherein, includes digital and analog circuitry, discrete or integratedcircuitry, microprocessors, DSPs, etc., and software, hardware andfirmware, located on one or more boards, used to control a device suchas a power supply or power source.

Turning now to FIG. 1 , a welding-type system 10 is a GMAW system, andin particular a MIG welding system. Other embodiment provide for system10 being flux core or other wire fed process. In this example system apower supply 12 receives and converts power that is applied to a wirefeeder 14. The wire feeder delivers the power to a welding torch 16 forcompleting a welding operation. Although the present disclosure usedthis GMAW power supply as an example for presentation of the newcircuitry and control techniques, it should be understood that the sameteachings may be applied to power supplies used for other weldingprocesses, as well as for other metal-working processes, such as plasmacutting. Other than the details described herein, welding-type system 10operates as set forth in patent application 2014-0376268.

The power supply 12 receives input power 18 from any suitable source,such as the power grid, an engine generator set, hybrid power supplies,fuel cells, batteries, or a combination of these. Power conversioncircuitry 20 converts the power to a form suitable for a welding (orother metal-working) process. The power supply may be designed to carryout multiple different welding processes that can be selected by anoperator, and the power conversion circuitry includes components, suchas solid state switches that allow for power conversion in accordancewith the desired process. Power source 12 is preferably avoltage-controlled power source. Voltage-controlled power source (alsocalled a CV power source), as used herein, is a power source wherein theoutput voltage is monitored, and the output is adjusted to provide thedesired voltage. The voltage may be constant during the welding process,or may have a desired waveform of varying voltage. Other embodimentsprovide for using a current-controlled power source.

Control and processing circuitry 22 is coupled to the power conversioncircuitry 20 and controls the operation of the power conversioncircuitry during the selected process. For example, the control andprocessing circuitry 22 may provide signals that regulate the conductivestates of solid state switches within the power conversion circuitry toproduce the desired output power, as also discussed below. In manyapplications the control and processing circuitry will include one ormore digital processors or microprocessors with associated memory tostore and carry out the processes available on the power supply. Suchprocesses may include constant voltage (CV) processes, constant current(CC) processes, pulsed processes, cutting processes, and so forth. Theprocesses and other welding parameters may be selected via an operatorinterface 24 that is coupled to the control and processing circuitry 22.The power supply may further include circuitry that allows forcommunications with remote or networked components and systems,illustrated as data/network interface 26 in FIG. 1 . Such circuitry mayallow for monitoring of welding operations, logging of weld data,downloading or configuration of new processes and updates to processes,and so forth. Finally, the power supply will sometimes include removablememory 28 that may be used for storing processes, process parameters,system updates, and any suitable data.

Power and data may be transferred from the power supply 12 to the wirefeeder 14 via one or more cables or cable bundles 30. The wire feederitself comprises a drive control circuitry 32 that regulates theoperation of a drive assembly 34. Drive control 32 along with controlcircuitry 22 together are the controller for system 10. The controllermay include other control modules as well. The drive assembly 34contacts and feeds a wire electrode 36 to the welding operation. Thewire electrode is typically stored on a spool 38 within the wire feeder.The wire feeder may also include one or more gas valves for providingshielding gas for a welding operation. Finally, an operator interface 42may allow certain parameters of the wire feeder to be selected, such aswire feed speed. The power supply and wire feeder may operate incoordination so that wire and gas resources are fed to the weldingoperation when power is provided for welding at the initiative of thewelding operator (e.g., via a control on the torch). In some embodimentsthe power supply and wire feeder may be integrated into a singlepackage. The wire and gas resources are provided via a weld cable 44coupled to the torch. A second or work cable 46 is typically clamped orcoupled in some manner to a workpiece 48 for completing the electricalcircuit. The full circuit is completed during the welding operation byan arc as indicated at reference numeral 50.

Power circuit 20 preferably includes an input rectifier that converts ACpower to DC power, a power factor correction boost circuit that receivesthe rectified input and provides a boosted bus to an isolated converter,preferably a dual two-switch interleaved forward converter that itselfincludes an output rectifier and an output inductor. Wire feeder 14feeds the wire at a rate set by the user, and controller 22 causes powercircuit 18 to provide an output at the current necessary for that wirefeed speed, and at the desired voltage.

Controller 22 includes in some embodiments an input limiting module 200,represented by the flowchart of FIG. 2 . Input limiting module 200implements a scheme that starts at step 201. The current feedback signalfrom line 102 (or elsewhere) is monitored at step 202. Input limitingmodule, as used herein, is a module that acts to limit the input to awelding-type system below that which would otherwise be drawn, bycontrolling a power circuit. The monitored current is compared to athreshold by a comparator 204. The inputs to comparator 204 are thecurrent feedback, and the threshold. If the feedback current is greaterthan (or equal to) the threshold, then the excess current (the amountover the threshold) is accumulated or averaged by averaging module 205.Averaging module, as used herein, includes a module that receives aninput and provides an output responsive to the average of the input overtime. The wire feed speed command is reduced based on the average excesscurrent, so that the likelihood of a breaker trip is low, and to avoidcausing the arc to suffer.

A safety or fallback voltage control loop is provided in one embodimentthat works particularly well for resistive loads. FIG. 3 shows an outputvoltage limiting module 300 that operates in a manner similar to inputlimiting module 200, except the reduced parameter is output voltage.Output voltage limiting module, as used herein, is a module that acts tolimit the output voltage of a welding-type system below the voltageotherwise commanded, by controlling a power circuit. Output limitingmodule 300 implements a scheme that starts at step 301. The currentfeedback signal from line 102 (or elsewhere) is monitored at step 302.Then, the monitored current is compared to a second threshold by acomparator 304. The second threshold preferably correlates to 10%greater than the threshold for comparator 204, but it could be othervalues. If the feedback current is greater than (or equal to) the secondthreshold, then the excess current (the amount over the secondthreshold) is accumulated or averaged by averaging module 305. Theoutput voltage command is reduced based on the average excess current.Reducing the output voltage helps further reduce the likelihood of abreaker tripping, particularly when the system is being tested orserviced on a resistive load. Alternatives include using code, hardwareor both to implement these modules. One alternative includes havinginput limiting module 200 include the function of module 300. Anotheralternative provides for using only module 200, or only module 300. Thelatter is particularly suited for non wire feed processes. Anotheralternative provides for making the comparison after the averaging.

Another aspect is the welding-type system being a short arc welder.Controller 22 includes control modules to control the output for shortarc welding, preferably a CV output. Preferably the short arc controlprovides that the output current follows a desired waveform. Onepossible wave form is shown in FIG. 4 . Generally, the short arc cycleis described as short, followed by arc (and then repeating). Because theprocess is cyclical, it could be described as starting anywhere in thecycle, and then repeating when the process returns to that point. Whenthere is a CV output, the process naturally alternates between arc andshort, as described above. Using the waveform of FIG. 4 and/or thecontrol scheme described below, results in a CV short circuit outputwith less spatter.

The cycle start in FIG. 4 at the wetting state where the short isformed. The output current is increased until the short clears. In thepreferred embodiment the increase is at the normal rate, although otherrates could be used. During the time the output is in the short state adetermined park short current for each cycle is found using currentfeedback or using the commanded peak current. Determined peak currentrefers to the actual or commanded peak current. Also, the time that theprocess is in the short state is recorded. Short clearing is detected bya change in output voltage. When the voltage suddenly increases, itmeans the short has cleared.

When the short clears the current is decreased at a dive rate. The diverate is preferably 2, 3, 4 or 8 times the normal rate, but can be morethan 8. The dive rate continues until the current magnitude falls to athreshold, and/or a determined time passes, and/or a number ofamp-seconds has been provided. The threshold is preferably a function ofthe actual or commanded peak short current, such as a percentage of thepeak short current of the short that just ended (which is in that cyclegiven when the cycle started), in the preferred embodiment. Morepreferably the percentage is about 75%, or 70-80%, or at least 75%.Thus, when the current decreases to or below the threshold (for exampleto below 75% of the peak short current), the dive rate ends.

When the dive rate ends the current is reduced at a rate of change lessthan the dive rate. One alternative provides for allowing the current isto remain at a steady rate before the current is reduced at the rate ofchange less than the dive rate. For example, the steady rate can beprovided for a period of time equal to a second percentage of the timethe output is in the short state for the given cycle. Other alternativesprovide for a slight decrease (which is a lesser rate than the normalrate). This is called the post dive state and is maintained for a timethat is preferably a percentage of the time the current was in the shortstate in that cycle. More preferably the post dive state (also calledthe porch) is maintained for about 25% of the time spent in the justended short state (in that cycle, given when the cycle started).Alternatives include spending 20-30% of the short time in the post divestate, or spending at least 25% of the short time in the post divestate. Another alternative provides that post dive rate is such that thecurrent for the rest of the arc state is sufficient to melt the wire tothe desired amount.

After the post dive state ends the current decreases at the normal rateuntil a short forms, and then the cycle repeats.

Controller 22 preferably includes a short arc module to implement acontrol scheme that provides the waveform of FIG. 4 . FIG. 5 shows sucha short arc module 500, and is implemented in software, but could beimplemented by hardware or a combination thereof. Short arc module 500resides in software in controller 22 in the preferred embodiment, butmay be part of drive control 32, or located elsewhere. The preferredembodiment provides that short arc module 500 receives feedbackresponsive to the system voltage and current on feedback line 102 (FIG.1 ), which represents multiple feedback lines. Alternatives includereceiving feedback responsive to current elsewhere in system 100, suchas within power circuit 18, or from electrode 36. Preferably, whereverthe current and voltage feedback is obtained, it can be correlated tothe system output current and voltage.

Short arc module 500 begins at step 502 with the process in the arcstate and with the current increasing at the normal rate for a CV outputin the short state. Step 502 is a normal rate module because the currentchanges increases at the normal rate (for the output voltage andinductance). Alternatives provide for a rate of increase other than thenormal rate.

The output current and/or commanded current is monitored by a peak shortcurrent detection module 504. Module 504 receives a signal indicative ofthe output current and/or commanded current, and in response theretooutput module 504 stores the determined peak current during the short.

The time spent in the short is recorded by short time detection module505, Module 505 responds to the output voltage. In one embodiment shorttime detection module is reset when the short state begins, andcontinues to count time until arc/short state detection module 506determines the short has ended. Arc/short state detection module 506 isresponsive to the voltage feedback.

If arc/short state detection module 506 determines that the short hasnot ended, the control continues to increase the current at the rate setby module 502. When module 506 determines the short has ended, a divemodule 508 causes the current to rapidly decrease, at a dive rate. Divemodule 508 remains active until the current drops below the thresholdset at step 510, preferably a function of the determined peak shortcurrent, such as 75% of the peak current (or 70-80%, or at least 75%).Step 510 can be considered part of a dive module, along with step 508.They are activated when the short ends/arc begins, and remain activeuntil the current drops below the threshold. Preferably the dive rate isabout four times the normal rate, but it can be other values greaterthan the normal rate.

When dive module 510 becomes inactive because the current drops belowthe threshold, then a post dive module 512 becomes active. Module 512causes the current to be commanded to a steady value. Alternatively, itcan be commanded to change slightly, such as less than the normal rateof change (or even to rise slightly) and/or be held steady. Module 512remains active until the time set by decision point 514 is reached.Decision 514 can be part of post dive module 512. The time in decision514 is preferably 25% of the short time determined in step 505 (or20-30%, or at least 25%). Thus, the post dive module is responsive tothe short time and the current feedback, and the ending of the divestate. Alternatives including staying in the post dive state untilsufficient wire has been melted.

When post dive module 512 becomes inactive, the current decreases at thenormal rate. Because the output is a CV output, the current decreases ata normal rate, until the state changes to short. Then the currentincreases again, and the process repeats.

Numerous modifications may be made to the present disclosure which stillfall within the intended scope hereof. Thus, it should be apparent thatthere has been provided a method and apparatus for providing short arcwelding power that fully satisfies the objectives and advantages setforth above. Although the disclosure has been described specificembodiments thereof, it is evident that many alternatives, modificationsand variations will be apparent to those skilled in the art.Accordingly, the invention is intended to embrace all such alternatives,modifications and variations that fall within the spirit and broad scopeof the appended claims.

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 26. A method of short arc welding, wherein the weld is a cyclical output, with each cycle including a short state followed by an arc state, wherein each short state includes a peak commanded short current and an actual peak short current comprising: during the short state, controlling an output of a welding-type system to increase a current of the output; in response to the process transitioning from the short state to the arc state, controlling the output of the welding-type system to lower the current at a dive rate, the dive rate being a rate of current decrease that exceeds the normal current rate of change on the output of a welding-type system; controlling the output of the welding-type system to end the dive rate; after ending the dive rate, controlling the output of the welding-type system to lower the current at a rate of change less than the dive rate; controlling the output of the welding-type system in an arc state; and controlling the output of the welding-type system to return to the short state.
 27. The method of claim 26, wherein ending the dive rate is commanded after the occurrence of at least one of: the current magnitude falls to a threshold; a determined time passes; and a number of amp-seconds has been provided.
 28. The method of claim 27, wherein the threshold is a function of the determined peak short current.
 29. The method of claim 27, wherein the threshold is a percentage of the determined peak short current of the given cycle.
 30. The method of claim 29, wherein the percentage is between 70% and 80%.
 31. The method of claim 29, wherein the percentage is at most 75%.
 32. The method of claim 27, wherein after the dive rate ends and before reducing the current at a rate of change less than the dive rate, the current is allowed to remain at a steady rate for a period of time equal to a second percentage of the time the output is in the short state for the given cycle.
 33. The method of claim 32, wherein the second percentage is at least one of between 20% and 30% and at least 25%.
 34. The method of claim 27, wherein reducing the current at a rate of change less than the dive rate includes providing current for the rest of the arc state to melt the wire to the desired amount.
 35. The method of claim 27, wherein the dive rate is set in response to workpiece material and gas type.
 36. The method of claim 26, wherein allowing the current to increase in the short state includes allowing the current to increase at the normal current rate of change in the short state.
 37. The method of claim 26, wherein the dive rate is at least 4 times the normal current change rate.
 38. The method of claim 26, wherein the dive rate is at least 8 times the normal current change rate.
 39. A system to provide current for short arc welding having a cyclical output, with each cycle including a short state followed by an arc state, wherein each short state includes a peak commanded short current and an actual peak short current, comprising: a power circuit, having a control input and a power output; a controller, having a control output connected to the control input, and having a current feedback input responsive to an output current and a voltage feedback input responsive to an output voltage, the controller configured to: monitor whether the output is in a short state or an arc state for the given cycle; control the power output of the power circuit to increase a current of the output during the short state; in response to the process transitioning from the short state to the arc state, control the power output of the power circuit to lower the current at a dive rate, the dive rate being a rate of current decrease that exceeds the normal current rate of change on the output of a welding-type system; and control the power output of the power circuit to lower the current at less than the dive rate; control the power output of the power circuit in an arc state; and control the power output of the power circuit to return to the short state.
 40. The system of claim 39, wherein the controller is configured to control the power circuit to end the dive rate after the occurrence of at least one of: the current magnitude falls to a threshold; a determined time passes; and a number of amp-seconds has been provided.
 41. The system of claim 40, wherein the controller is configured to: monitor at least one of the commanded peak short current and the actual peak short current; and control the power circuit to end the dive rate responsive to monitoring at least one of the commanded peak short current and the actual peak short current.
 42. The system of claim 40, wherein reducing the current at a rate of change less than the dive rate includes providing current for the rest of the arc state to melt the wire to the desired amount.
 43. The system of claim 42, wherein the means for ending the dive rate is responsive to monitored current being between 70% and 80% of at least one of the commanded peak short current and the actual peak short current.
 44. The system of claim 39, wherein the controller is configured to control the power circuit to allow the current to remain at a steady rate for a period of time equal to a percentage of the time the output is in the short state for the given cycle after the dive rate ends and before reducing the current at less than the dive rate.
 45. The system of claim 44, wherein the percentage is at least one of between 20% and 30% and at least 25%. 